I was nervous about how well we could really discuss a book on writing in 140 character soundbites but it was a lot of fun tonight, and many people who hadn’t yet read the book scurried off to do so on the basis of the chat, so I think we can count that as a success!
Many, many thanks to Kristi at The Editorial Department (@editorialdept) for hosting the chat with thought-provoking questions and for whittling down the essence of our book choice to fit the Twitter format. I know she has a lot more to say on the subject, and you may all have more questions, so the chat is ongoing at our ScribeChat Book Club e-mail list at:
But now, to the transcript:
| 11:44 pm | inkgypsy: | RT @LiaKeyes: We’re discussing @BetsyLerner ‘s wonderful book, The Forest For The Trees, on #ScribeChat at 6 pm PST / 9 pm EST tonight! (just over 1 hr) |
| 11:55 pm | editorialdept: | Counting down to #scribechat in 1 hour. Hosting discussion on The Forest for the Trees: An Editor’s Advice to Writers. http://bit.ly/9wj6JH |
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| 12:01 am | Danisidhe: | RT @editorialdept: Counting down to #scribechat in 1 hour. Hosting discussion on The Forest for the Trees |
| 12:35 am | laurelrusswurm: | ooohhh… it’s awfully quiet in here. #scribechat |
| 12:42 am | laurelrusswurm: | @laurelrusswurm *sigh* #scribechat |
| 12:51 am | editorialdept: | Back online and ready to chat! Counting down the minutes… #scribechat |
| 12:51 am | LiaKeyes: | @laurelrusswurm LOL – Hi, Laurel! We’re scurrying around getting our last minute snacks and drinks. |
| 12:53 am | LiaKeyes: | Tonight’s chat is hosted by @editorialdept, who’ll lead us through a discussion of @BetsyLerner ‘s bk The Forest For The Trees #scribechat |
| 12:53 am | editorialdept: | @LiaKeyes I’ve got the laptop set up in the kitchen so I can whip up a quick dinner w/out missing anything. <–is nerd #scribechat |
| 12:59 am | teetate: | Evening everyone. #scribechat |
| 1:01 am | phoebeeating: | hello hello all! #scribechat |
| 1:01 am | LiaKeyes: | How many of you had time to finish reading The Forest For The Trees? #scribechat |
| 1:01 am | Danisidhe: | Grabbing some hazelnut coffee |
| 1:01 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating hey you! LOL I’m about 95% done w/ my edits thanks to you! #scribechat |
| 1:02 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes Finished it today at work. #scribechat |
| 1:02 am | LiaKeyes: | @Danisidhe @phoebeeating Good to see you both! #scribechat |
| 1:02 am | editorialdept: | @teetate ha! that’s dedication #scribechat |
| 1:02 am | phoebeeating: | @LiaKeyes I read it about a year ago, but didn’t have time to reread. Will try not to muck up the chat with my hazy memories! #scribechat |
| 1:02 am | PattyJMurphy: | helloooo everyone:) #scribechat |
| 1:02 am | LiaKeyes: | @teetate Good job! I did, too, while standing in line at the DMV. |
| 1:03 am | EbonyMcKenna: | Hello all. I’m writing, but also lurking here a bit. Trying this ‘multi tasking’ thing |
| 1:03 am | teetate: | @editorialdept heh, told you I’d finish. I keep my word. |
| 1:03 am | phoebeeating: | @teetate SO glad I could help! Haven’t gotten a chance to peek at yours, but looking forward to it. #scribechat |
| 1:03 am | SolomonInkwell: | Hello there, #scribechat. Let’s see how long I can keep my keyboard working! #scribechat |
| 1:03 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating hope I did it justice. LOVED that short. #scribechat |
| 1:03 am | LiaKeyes: | @PattyJMurphy Hi, Patty and Ebony! Lurking is fine. Feel free to leap in with a question even if you haven’t read the book. |
| 1:04 am | teetate: | @EbonyMcKenna hey, sweetie! #scribechat |
| 1:04 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @EbonyMcKenna Me too! #writing and chatting! #scribechat |
| 1:04 am | phoebeeating: | @teetate <3 Thanks doll. #scribechat |
| 1:04 am | a_crezo: | Lurking at #scribechat. Haven’t read the book, feeling like a wallflower. LOL #scribechat |
| 1:05 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @teetate Hi right back. #scribechat |
| 1:05 am | phoebeeating: | @EbonyMcKenna Hey Ebony–I’m doing the same. Hope we can keep up with both #scribechat and #amwriting |
| 1:05 am | LiaKeyes: | Our host for tonight is @editorialdept, so I’ll hand you over to her…. #scribechat |
| 1:05 am | rllafevers: | Okay, I’m actually going to try a chat and see if I can keep my head from exploding. #scribechat |
| 1:05 am | a_crezo: | @teetate |
| 1:06 am | LiaKeyes: | @a_crezo Hey, maybe we’ll get your curiosity up so you’ll end up reading it. I found it very helpful, particularly the first ch #scribechat |
| 1:06 am | teetate: | @a_crezo That, is impossible. You’re so shiny. #scribechat |
| 1:06 am | PattyJMurphy: | Hi,@rllafevers….sooo good to see you here. Welcome! #scribechat |
| 1:06 am | a_crezo: | @LiaKeyes That’s exactly why I’m here. #scribechat |
| 1:06 am | LiaKeyes: | @rllafevers Hi, Robin! We’re discussing The Forest For The Trees by Betsy Lerner, which I’ve just read for the first time #scribechat |
| 1:07 am | a_crezo: | @teetate Well I also smell like rainclouds but you can’t know that. #scribechat |
| 1:07 am | editorialdept: | I’m going to dive into book chat here. The overall impression I got from the book was summed up in this quote: #scribechat |
| 1:07 am | editorialdept: | “the reader doesn’t care what you went through to produce your work” #scribechat |
| 1:07 am | editorialdept: | Despite all the behind-the-scenes info, and insight into editorial process, it all boils down to “the reader doesn’t care”… #scribechat |
| 1:08 am | Story_Craft: | FYI #storycraft -ers #scribechat is starting. Today we are discussing Betsy Learner’s book on writing: The Forest for the Trees. |
| 1:08 am | LiaKeyes: | LOL. Largely true! RT @editorialdept: “the reader doesnt care what you went through to produce your work” #scribechat |
| 1:08 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | Love that, so true! RT @editorialdept “the reader doesn’t care what you went through to produce your work” #scribechat #scribechat |
| 1:08 am | editorialdept: | With all the tales of neurotic authors and crazed publicity meetings, it’s easy to see how ego & fear can get in the way #scribechat |
| 1:08 am | phoebeeating: | RT @editorialdept: “the reader doesn’t care what you went through to produce your work” #scribechat |
| 1:09 am | teetate: | @editorialdept it’s a bit putting on a play, no one cares how hard you worked, just as long as they’re entertained. #scribechat |
| 1:09 am | rllafevers: | @LiaKeyes Hi Lia! Luckily, I’ve read that book, even tho I didn’t know it was assigned reading. #scribechat |
| 1:09 am | leithliterary: | http://miniurl.com/47902 #sarabareilles #music #scribechat #writechat Pop songs as short fiction and the feel/think of word choice. |
| 1:09 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @editorialdept So true – the reader just wants a good story. #scribechat |
| 1:09 am | editorialdept: | At the same time, I was impressed by the level of care and compassion Lerner has for her clients, despite the diva behavior #scribechat |
| 1:09 am | rllafevers: | @PattyJMurphy Thanks Patty! I just downloaded tweetchat, so maybe that will make things easier. |
| 1:09 am | Danisidhe: | @editorialdept I’d like to add: “but a good agent might” to your summary |
| 1:10 am | maryfranholm: | RT @a_crezo Lurking at #scribechat. Haven’t read the book, feeling like a wallflower. LOL #scribechat// Me too. |
| 1:10 am | LiaKeyes: | @rllafevers We’ve just started a book club for how to write books, and this is our first go at discussing one! #scribechat |
| 1:10 am | teetate: | @editorialdept she certainly was honest about it and I respected that a lot. Also loved her ‘insider’ stories. Great perspective #scribechat |
| 1:10 am | editorialdept: | As writers, what impressions did you all have of the book? Any big take-aways? #scribechat |
| 1:10 am | LiaKeyes: | @Danisidhe For me, the first chapter, on ambivalent writers, struck a lot of chords. #scribechat |
| 1:11 am | phoebeeating: | That was an interesting tension in the book: all these stories abt nutty writers, but the pt was how irrelevant the writer is #scribechat |
| 1:11 am | PattyJMurphy: | The reader just cares that we put our best stuff between the pages:) #scribechat |
| 1:11 am | wholewidewords: | I relate to this quote. Used to be a musician, and no one cared if I spent billions of hours practicing, or none. #scribechat |
| 1:11 am | teetate: | @editorialdept It was eye opening for me. I knew the gist of how publishing wrks, this gave me details. #scribechat |
| 1:11 am | LiaKeyes: | @editorialdept I found that first chapter made me feel less of a freak and like I must be in a lot of good company. |
| 1:12 am | editorialdept: | @LiaKeyes just like scribechat |
| 1:12 am | EbonyMcKenna: | #scribechat – confession. Haven’t read Forest for the Trees, but ordering a copy right now |
| 1:12 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes I felt that way a lot in reading this book. #scribechat |
| 1:12 am | LiaKeyes: | @LiaKeyes I also liked the way it was organized, the types of writers up front, then the inside info on publishing in 2nd half #scribechat |
| 1:12 am | phoebeeating: | @editorialdept EVERYTHING she said about her MFA experience made me nod. Mine (also in poetry, dif. school) was very similar. #scribechat |
| 1:13 am | PattyJMurphy: | RT @LiaKeyes: @editorialdept I found that 1st chap made me feel less of a freak + like I must be in a lot of good company <<LOL #scribechat |
| 1:13 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @wholewidewords Exactly – good comparison with musicians – it’s assumed you’ve put in hours of practise anyway? #scribechat |
| 1:13 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @EbonyMcKenna True. I think readers become interested in the author only after they love the author’s work, not before! #scribechat |
| 1:13 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating Two words: Truman Capote. Niiiiice #scribechat |
| 1:13 am | Danisidhe: | @editorialdept @liakeyes I think many people may have trouble with that first chapter because the think they are unique hehe #scribechat |
| 1:14 am | LiaKeyes: | @editorialdept I also liked the stories of writers like Dickens, and what motivated them to write (need for approval/attention) #scribechat |
| 1:14 am | editorialdept: | I was surprised to find out which author archetype I agreed with – expected to be an entirely different one. Which ones are you? #scribechat |
| 1:15 am | PattyJMurphy: | @Danisidhe: But, we are unique…uniquely different:) #scribechat |
| 1:15 am | editorialdept: | RT @HeatherMcCorkle: True. I think readers become interested in the author only after they love the authors work, not before! #scribechat |
| 1:15 am | LiaKeyes: | @Danisidhe The stories made me realize those who don’t know what to write about aren’t listening to their hurt inner child #scribechat |
| 1:15 am | a_crezo: | OK, you got me. Just bought a copy of The Forest for the Trees. #scribechat |
| 1:16 am | wholewidewords: | @EbonyMcKenna No one cared if I’d broken up w/someone, or had a death in the family. U either performed well or u didn’t y’know? #scribechat |
| 1:16 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | It sounds like I must get this book. I’m so glad I dropped in! I’m always on the lookout for another great book on the craft. #scribechat |
| 1:16 am | teetate: | @editorialdept Mostly, ambivalent writer and the neurotic. One more than the other on any given day. #scribechat |
| 1:16 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes or just aren’t writers |
| 1:16 am | LiaKeyes: | SCORE! LOL @BetsyLerner RT @a_crezo: OK, you got me. Just bought a copy of The Forest for the Trees. #scribechat |
| 1:17 am | teetate: | @a_crezo Yay! #scribechat |
| 1:17 am | EbonyMcKenna: | http://is.gd/dRQNu #scribechat Forest for the Trees, Betsy Lerner at Bookdepository if anyone’s interested |
| 1:17 am | wholewidewords: | What are the diff archetypes? If someone will just name them… #scribechat |
| 1:18 am | teetate: | RT @EbonyMcKenna: http://is.gd/dRQNu #scribechat Forest for the Trees, Betsy Lerner at Bookdepository if anyones interested |
| 1:18 am | lioncaller: | So when would it come up, as far as reader is concerned, what you went thru to write your book? #scribechat |
| 1:18 am | LiaKeyes: | For those who want to join the discussion of @BetsyLerner‘s The Forest For The Trees:http://tweetchat.com/room/scribechat |
| 1:18 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @wholewidewords so true. The audience won’t give you any slack either. They want good music |
| 1:18 am | Danisidhe: | @PattyJMurphy When it comes to our pain, noone is unique – the expression MIGHT be, but the pain isn’t. #scribechat |
| 1:18 am | editorialdept: | I thought I’d be neurotic, but identified strongly w/ the natural. not in that it comes easily, but in that I’m compelled 2 wrt #scribechat |
| 1:18 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords Ambivalent writer, the natural, the wicked child, the self-promoter, the neurotic. #scribechat |
| 1:19 am | nathanhenrion: | @teetate I’m going to be like the annoying drunk dude who crashes your party #scribechat What’s Up Ladies!!!! Wooohooo! PARTY! |
| 1:19 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | Okay, I’m ordering my copy. http://tinyurl.com/24rnfel And recommending it to my crit group! #scribechat |
| 1:19 am | LiaKeyes: | @nathanhenrion FUNNY! Did you bring the booze? #scribechat |
| 1:19 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate Thanks, Tee! Getting the book now, yay… #scribechat |
| 1:20 am | teetate: | @editorialdept I feel that there are many facets to each that identify with. I don’t think just one label fits. #scribechat |
| 1:20 am | teetate: | @nathanhenrion Oh look, it’s Mr. Twitter. LOL hey buddy. #scribechat |
| 1:20 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @wholewidewords Character archetypes – about 12 of them? http://is.gd/dRR55 #scribechat |
| 1:20 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords my pleasure. #scribechat |
| 1:20 am | LiaKeyes: | @teetate Yes, there are probably bits of each archetype in all of us, but one or two will be most relatable. #scribechat |
| 1:21 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @nathanhenrion Seconded, my glass is almost empty: @LiaKeyes FUNNY! Did you bring the booze? #scribechat |
| 1:21 am | wholewidewords: | @EbonyMcKenna No slack & no mercy! Except, as a reader, I try hard to understand where an author’s coming from. Esp. a fave one #scribechat |
| 1:21 am | editorialdept: | Also, this book was written in 2000. I wonder how much has changed in light of electronic submissions, etc. #scribechat |
| 1:22 am | teetate: | @editorialdept I was thinking that especially toward the end when she mention electronic rights. #scribechat |
| 1:22 am | LiaKeyes: | @editorialdept I think I read on her blog that a new edition is coming out soon. Not sure how different it will be. #scribechat |
| 1:22 am | phoebeeating: | @editorialdept I read the 1st ed abt a year ago–it was very negative about electronic submissions. Has it been updated? #scribechat |
| 1:22 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @editorialdept Great question & it brings up a good point. It’s interesting how much tech has changed but good writing hasn’t! #scribechat |
| 1:22 am | wholewidewords: | @EbonyMcKenna I try to give musicians/other artists a break, too. We can’t all be on our game every note or every paragraph! #scribechat |
| 1:23 am | teetate: | @HeatherMcCorkle exactly! #scribechat |
| 1:23 am | Danisidhe: | @editorialdept According to my little coloured flags, I related most to The Natural and The Neurotic chapters. #scribechat |
| 1:23 am | phoebeeating: | @LiaKeyes Ah, nevermind, thought the new one came out already. #scribechat #duh |
| 1:23 am | lioncaller: | @LynReader I can see it being of interest during a reading, if readers ask… #scribechat Or on Oprah. |
| 1:23 am | editorialdept: | “the challenge to continue producing in the face of both creative blocks & what can amt to paralyzing fear…fact of wrtng life” #scribechat |
| 1:23 am | teetate: | @HeatherMcCorkle I think that’s the bottom line: forget genre, forget market, the only that, ultimately matters is the writing. #scribechat |
| 1:23 am | LiaKeyes: | Betsy’s blog is here: http://betsylerner.wordpress.com/ #scribechat |
| 1:24 am | teetate: | @HeatherMcCorkle and I mean in terms of getting your stuff out there. I’m not naive. I know there are other factors. #scribechat |
| 1:24 am | LiaKeyes: | I think I’ve got a bit of the Wicked Child archetype in me, too. |
| 1:24 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @wholewidewords musicians have rehearsals, writers have drafts and editing, so we can be at our best when it counts #scribechat |
| 1:24 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @teetate So true! Which is exactly why THE PASSAGE was bought even though most say the vampire craze is over. #scribechat |
| 1:25 am | EbonyMcKenna: | Thanks for that RT @LiaKeyes: Betsy’s blog is here: http://is.gd/dRRvF #scribechat |
| 1:25 am | editorialdept: | As an office supply fetishist (neurotic), I loved her gentle reminder that “none of this is writing. It’s stalling” #scribechat |
| 1:25 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @LiaKeyes Wicked child archtype, I just love the sound of that! Can’t wait to get this book! #scribechat |
| 1:25 am | Danisidhe: | @editorialdept I found it odd that she essentially says don’t write if you’re not compelled to, then separates “naturals”… #scribechat |
| 1:25 am | teetate: | @HeatherMcCorkle yep. #scribechat |
| 1:26 am | phoebeeating: | @HeatherMcCorkle & more importantly, why it’s done so well. Readers often don’t seem to care about “trends.” #scribechat |
| 1:26 am | editorialdept: | @Danisidhe I think “natural” was a misnomer in this case. It certainly didn’t describe someone for whom writing is easy #scribechat |
| 1:26 am | wholewidewords: | @HeatherMcCorkle I loved, loved, loved The PASSAGE. Got it b/c I like the vampire stuff, loved it for way different reasons! #scribechat |
| 1:27 am | phoebeeating: | @editorialdept Hmm . . . she’d probably consider #scribechat stalling, huh? |
| 1:27 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @phoebeeating That’s so true! It’s a shame the industry can’t be the same. But they have to be foreward thinking I suppose. #scribechat |
| 1:27 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @wholewidewords I haven’t read it yet. Sounds like I should! #scribechat |
| 1:28 am | Danisidhe: | @editorialdept New edition due out Oct 4th lol http://ht.ly/2iBT3 #scribechat |
| 1:28 am | editorialdept: | @phoebeeating ha! I’m afraid so. It’d take the pressure off of her to be the author’s sole support network, so maybe it’s ok! #scribechat |
| 1:28 am | LiaKeyes: | YEP! But inspirational, too RT @phoebeeating: @editorialdept Hmm . . . shed probably consider #scribechat stalling, huh? |
| 1:28 am | nathanhenrion: | @HeatherMcCorkle Vampire books will be in demand for another 3-5 years #scribechat |
| 1:28 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @nathanhenrion Good to hear, cause I love them! #scribechat |
| 1:28 am | wholewidewords: | In my old field, music, there were many naturally gifted musicians who weren’t compelled to make it their life’s work. #scribechat |
| 1:29 am | LiaKeyes: | THANKS! RT @Danisidhe: @editorialdept New edition due out Oct 4th lol http://ht.ly/2iBT3#scribechat |
| 1:29 am | teetate: | @nathanhenrion even the done-to-death angsty, I vant you types? The Passage was different in that regard. #scribechat |
| 1:30 am | editorialdept: | Guess that takes care of Oct. book club book |
| 1:30 am | phoebeeating: | @wholewidewords True for writing, too. I’ve known so many brilliant writers who don’t write at all anymore. #scribechat |
| 1:30 am | RDSPress: | ~pokes her head in to watch #scribechat~ |
| 1:30 am | jaymgates: | ~pokes her head in to watch #scribechat~ |
| 1:30 am | teetate: | @nathanhenrion bit like ‘I Am Legend’ the film, not the book. Vry different vamps between the two. #scribechat |
| 1:30 am | wholewidewords: | @HeatherMcCorkleI thought it was fantastic! Hope you read it & get back to me. #minibookclub#scribechat |
| 1:31 am | LisaMPotts: | @LiaKeyes It’s in my shopping cart at Amazon. #scribechat |
| 1:31 am | thedaisyharris: | Hey- is this almost over? What was the question? #scribechat |
| 1:31 am | LiaKeyes: | @jaymgates @RDSPress Hi, you two! Thanks for letting us know you’re listening in. We’re chatting about The Forest For The Trees #scribechat |
| 1:31 am | editorialdept: | The most important take-away, for me, was advice to keep working on your next book before/during debut novel’s release. So impt! #scribechat |
| 1:32 am | LiaKeyes: | GREAT! RT @LisaMPotts: @LiaKeyes Its in my shopping cart at Amazon. #scribechat |
| 1:32 am | wholewidewords: | @phoebeeating Yes! Some of my music student friends, all brill, were forced to play, or just didn’t have the passion. #scribechat |
| 1:32 am | overdunne: | Hi all! I’m lurking in the margins. Didn’t get a chance to get the book, but thought I could follow along… #scribechat |
| 1:32 am | junegoodwin: | What’s the topic tonight? #scribechat |
| 1:32 am | teetate: | @editorialdept yes! I really appreciated that. Best way to not go mad, get straight into the next book. #scribechat |
| 1:33 am | LiaKeyes: | @editorialdept The most important take away for me was to make peace with one’s neuroses and let them fuel the writing! #scribechat |
| 1:33 am | teetate: | @overdunne Hi honey! Welcome. #scribechat |
| 1:33 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @wholewidewords I will, thank you for the recommendation! #scribechat |
| 1:33 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate The Passage had no hot Emo vamps, that’s for sure! #scribechat |
| 1:33 am | nathanhenrion: | @teetate I just see the high demand not diminishing on titles releasing through next August…so everyone thinks it’ll continue #scribechat |
| 1:33 am | laurelrusswurm: | RT @editorialdept: most important take-awaywas advice to keep working on your next book before/during debut novels release. #scribechat |
| 1:33 am | LiaKeyes: | @junegoodwin Hi, there, we’re discussing Betsy Lerner’s The Forest For The Trees, written by an editor #scribechat |
| 1:34 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @teetate That’s exactly how I stay sane while I’m on submission to editors. Write that next book! #scribechat |
| 1:34 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords exactly. One vampire tour in New Orleans and you’ll be off those types of vamps forever. Trust me. #scribechat |
| 1:34 am | thedaisyharris: | @HeatherMcCorkle Write more books! It’s the only way to go. #scribechat |
| 1:34 am | PattyJMurphy: | @wholewidewords: Yes, I think passion is a must–and the desire to write to change lives–yours and others:) #scribechat |
| 1:34 am | teetate: | @HeatherMcCorkle Then you are wise as well as beautiful. |
| 1:34 am | editorialdept: | Also important – “Never do anything just because an editor tells you to” #scribechat |
| 1:34 am | laurelrusswurm: | RT @LiaKeyes: @editorialdept Most important – make peace with ones neuroses and let them fuel the writing! >>isn’t that a given? #scribechat |
| 1:35 am | junegoodwin: | @LiaKeyes I was traveling over the past few wks (UK included!) so I didn’t get a chance to read it. I’ll lurk on the sidelines. #scribechat |
| 1:35 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @thedaisyharris Exactly! That’s why I now have two series on submission instead of just one |
| 1:35 am | teetate: | @editorialdept I think what I took away from it is that your editor should guide you, not boss you around. #scribechat |
| 1:35 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @teetate And you are so sweet I could put you in my coffee! #scribechat |
| 1:35 am | teetate: | @editorialdept Oh and never piss off your publicist. #scribechat |
| 1:35 am | Danisidhe: | RT @editorialdept: working on your next book #scribechat << How do you not? It can take YEARS to get a project up! |
| 1:35 am | LiaKeyes: | @junegoodwin Travel is good for the soul. Did you bring me any English chocolate? |
| 1:36 am | PattyJMurphy: | @editorialdept: Absolutely! You have to be true to your writing…to your story. It’s all about truth. #scribechat |
| 1:36 am | teetate: | @HeatherMcCorkle |
| 1:36 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate After THE PASSAGE, I remembered vamps are predators. But now I kinda want to take that tour! *delicious shiver* #scribechat |
| 1:36 am | nathanhenrion: | you need that second or third book in the works, midlist pubs may even ask for a partial second work if considering a debut #scribechat |
| 1:36 am | Danisidhe: | RT @LiaKeyes: make peace with one’s neuroses and let them fuel the writing! #scribechat << She was def. big on that! |
| 1:36 am | thedaisyharris: | @HeatherMcCorkle Yeah, I need to get another series going. I know where current one will be pubbed, so I shld expand my scope. #scribechat |
| 1:36 am | LiaKeyes: | @laurelrusswurm Yes, a given, but I can never hear it too often, because I’m often stuck/blocked but really it’s self-doubt. #scribechat |
| 1:37 am | paulgreci: | I read Forest thru Trees about a year ago. Timeless advice. And Betsy’s blog is a must read. Funny but truthful. #scribechat |
| 1:37 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords it was awesome. You’ll love it. #scribechat |
| 1:37 am | editorialdept: | Yes – continuing work is good to keep your mind off book release, but essential for when editor/pub. says “What’s next?” #scribechat |
| 1:37 am | phoebeeating: | @Danisidhe I have a beloved frnd who has been working on one thing for ~a decade. Guess it’s hard to let that first project go #scribechat |
| 1:37 am | thedaisyharris: | RT @Danisidhe: RT @LiaKeyes: make peace with neuroses and let them fuel the writing! #scribechatWhat else to do w/ neuroses? #scribechat |
| 1:38 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | Golden advice! RT @nathanhenrion you need 2nd or 3rd in the works, pubs may ask for a partial 2nd work if considering a debut #scribechat |
| 1:38 am | Danisidhe: | Another takeaway: It’s NEVER a conspiracy not to publish a piece- agents and editors are human, not irrational monsters LOL #scribechat |
| 1:38 am | junegoodwin: | @LiaKeyes I should have right? Cadburys are way better and thicker there. A fellow was surprised we have Cadburys in the US! #scribechat |
| 1:38 am | wholewidewords: | @PattyJMurphy Passion is one part. Another factor I observed is determination. Sometimes ruthless ambition helps, too! |
| 1:38 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @thedaisyharris It can’t hurt! #scribechat |
| 1:38 am | laurelrusswurm: | @LiaKeyes Isn’t that’s why most of us write? … to work out the demons, vampires or no. #scribechat |
| 1:39 am | LiaKeyes: | @junegoodwin Yep, it just doesn’t taste the same here. I used to work with Peter Cadbury, very nice English boy. |
| 1:39 am | junegoodwin: | @nathanhenrion Good advice. I was wondering about this. #scribechat |
| 1:39 am | teetate: | Best and simplest advice in the book: patience, patience, patience. #scribechat |
| 1:39 am | lioncaller: | @nathanhenrion based on what? i have been watching teens in bookstores hunting for ANYTHING else, frustrated #scribechat |
| 1:40 am | PattyJMurphy: | @wholewidewords: Sure. But, I think passion and determination goes hand in hand. #scribechat |
| 1:40 am | phoebeeating: | @teetate Hardest advice, too! #scribechat |
| 1:40 am | laurelrusswurm: | @phoebeeating I would gently suggest your friend put it aside and maybe start another something. #scribechat |
| 1:40 am | Danisidhe: | @phoebeeating As long as they are happy with it taking that long, and aren’t putting off other projects, that’s fine. #scribechat |
| 1:40 am | overdunne: | @teetate patience…hmmm. That’s a difficult one in today’s quick paced world. #scribechat |
| 1:41 am | LiaKeyes: | @laurelrusswurm Many write because they’re hurt and need to exorcise it, but some write from joy. Envy that! #scribechat |
| 1:41 am | junegoodwin: | @teetate My word! He’s still alive? At least Hagen Daz is still a pint there. It’s reduced to 14 ozs here. What a rip off. #scribechat |
| 1:41 am | SHAdams: | RT @nathanhenrion: you need that second or third book in the works, midlist pubs may even ask for a partial second work if considering a debut #scribechat |
| 1:41 am | PattyJMurphy: | @LiaKeyes: Oooh…so you and Roald Dahl have someting in common, yes? #scribechat |
| 1:42 am | editorialdept: | “Getting even is a great reason for writing” – William Gass #scribechat |
| 1:42 am | wholewidewords: | RT @LiaKeyes: @laurelrusswurm Many write because theyre hurt and need to exorcise it, but some write from joy. Envy that! #scribechat |
| 1:42 am | teetate: | @overdunne solid advice, if you can take it, I think. #scribechat |
| 1:42 am | phoebeeating: | @LiaKeyes I write fiction because I love stories! (but write poetry because I’m emo . . .) #scribechat |
| 1:43 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating LOL #scribechat |
| 1:43 am | nathanhenrion: | @lioncaller when the buyers i meet only ask “You got any Vampire books coming out?” #scribechat |
| 1:43 am | overdunne: | @teetate operative word there is ‘if’ |
| 1:44 am | laurelrusswurm: | @LiaKeyes Writing for joy is on good days. But all the life experience (aka baggage) is in the mix. #scribechat |
| 1:44 am | LiaKeyes: | RT @editorialdept: “Getting even is a great reason for writing” – William Gass #scribechat |
| 1:44 am | lioncaller: | I write to get voices the hell out of my head. #scribechat |
| 1:44 am | lioncaller: | That too. RT @editorialdept: “Getting even is a great reason for writing” – William Gass #scribechat |
| 1:44 am | teetate: | @overdunne lol true, but I think if you work hard enough and want it bad enough you’ll succeed. You get out what you put in. #scribechat |
| 1:44 am | phoebeeating: | RT @lioncaller: I write to get voices the hell out of my head. #scribechat |
| 1:45 am | nathanhenrion: | RT @teetate: Best and simplest advice in the book: patience, patience, patience. #scribechat |
| 1:45 am | editorialdept: | Another good takeaway – write your proposal in voice/style in which you have written or plan to write #scribechat |
| 1:45 am | PeterMcL: | Am I the only one for whom writing is work? #scribechat |
| 1:45 am | LiaKeyes: | Dickens was abandoned to a workhouse as a child, when fam. fortunes looked up, they didn’t come back 4 him. Then.. Oliver Twist. #scribechat |
| 1:45 am | teetate: | I mean, let’s be honest here, writng isn’t always a joy. It’s work. Hard work. For me, it’s the only thing I am passionate about #scribechat |
| 1:45 am | laurelrusswurm: | RT @phoebeeating: @LiaKeyes I write fiction because I love stories! [Me too!] #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | teetate: | @PeterMcL not at all. Trust me. #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | PattyJMurphy: | RT @teetate: @overdunne: If you work hard enough + want it bad enough you’ll succeed. You get out what you put in. <<Amen:) #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | Danisidhe: | RT @lioncaller: I write to get voices the hell out of my head. #scribechat << Exactly. How one stops to wait to sell a project, I don’t know |
| 1:46 am | LiaKeyes: | @PeterMcL Define ‘work’… hard work/difficult? A full-time occupation kind of work? #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | lioncaller: | huh. only saying what i see while browsing. RT @nathanhenrion: buyers i meet only ask “You got any Vampire books coming out?” #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | editorialdept: | Writers have the occasional effortless day, but most of the time it’s work. Passion for words/story/sharing keeps us going. #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @petermcl Writing is hard work for me, but I love having written and feel good about it #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | phoebeeating: | @petermcl Oh, it’s work–but beats data entry, that’s for sure. #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | Danisidhe: | RT @PeterMcL: Am I the only one for whom writing is work? #scribechat Of course not lol |
| 1:46 am | laurelrusswurm: | @lioncaller By the end I’m usually rather attached to the voices in my head. #scribechat |
| 1:46 am | thedaisyharris: | I write to create a world where it all makes sense. |
| 1:47 am | wholewidewords: | @PeterMcL I write in my own blood. Drip drip drip… #scribechat |
| 1:47 am | PeterMcL: | @teetate Thanks! I’m encouraged. #scribechat |
| 1:47 am | paulgreci: | “Writing is nothing if not a long distance race.” Forest for the trees. #scribechat |
| 1:47 am | teetate: | Marilyn said ‘there were others prettier, et all’ but I wanted it more. #scribechat |
| 1:47 am | overdunne: | @teetate too true. Patience is not my virtue. Determination…THAT I’ve got in abundance |
| 1:47 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | Writing is definitely work but its the most amazing, rewarding kind of work I can possibly imagine. #scribechat |
| 1:47 am | teetate: | @PeterMcL I tend to want to write the juicy bits. Kills me to write the filler, but I do it bc I <3 the end result. #scribechat |
| 1:48 am | PattyJMurphy: | @PeterMcL: It’s work for everyone. Richard Peck once said, “Easy writing = bad reading!” I think that’s true. #scribechat |
| 1:48 am | phoebeeating: | RT @teetate: Marilyn said ‘there were others prettier, et all’ but I wanted it more. #scribechat |
| 1:48 am | matthewschulz: | Hi, all. Wife’s putting son to bed, so I thought I’d pop in. What’s the word? #scribechat |
| 1:48 am | PeterMcL: | @LiaKeyes Work in the sense of not just doing what I want or being driven, but doing what is necessary. #scribechat |
| 1:48 am | wholewidewords: | PERSEVERANCE! That’s the one quality I have. #scribechat |
| 1:49 am | teetate: | IMHO if you think you’re the best, believe your the best at whatever it is, then you ARE the best. Takes ambition &determination #scribechat |
| 1:49 am | LiaKeyes: | @matthewschulz Hey! Welcome! We’re chatting about Betsy Lerner’s book The Forest For The Trees and writing motivations, etc #scribechat |
| 1:49 am | wholewidewords: | @PattyJMurphy Oh, and I love Peck’s work. #scribechat |
| 1:49 am | laurelrusswurm: | @PeterMcL @teetate Writing is hard work… that’s why writers have to fight tendency to olympic calibre procrastination #scribechat |
| 1:49 am | nathanhenrion: | writing is the perfect excuse for drinking…”Hey, I’m thinking here! Pour me another!” #scribechat |
| 1:49 am | Danisidhe: | I found it interesting that she essentially said: pick a form and stick to it. #scribechat |
| 1:49 am | matthewschulz: | @HeatherMcCorkle: Yeah, anyone who says it’s not work has never been serious about it. #scribechat |
| 1:50 am | PeterMcL: | I could write six times as much if it wasn’t for the ‘work’ aspects! #scribechat |
| 1:50 am | teetate: | @laurelrusswurm LOL God yes! #scribechat |
| 1:50 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @matthewschulz So true! #scribechat |
| 1:50 am | teetate: | @matthewschulz exactly! If it was easy, everyone would do…all the time. #scribechat |
| 1:50 am | editorialdept: | I think Lerner really highlighted the editor’s role in easing a bit of that “work” – providing nudges & guidance where needed #scribechat |
| 1:51 am | lioncaller: | speaking of different, unsentimental take on vampires, check out Vampire Tapestriy by Suzy Charnas sometime. Predates trend. #scribechat |
| 1:51 am | LiaKeyes: | Did any of you have a preference for the writer archetypes half of the book or the publishing insights half of the book? #scribechat |
| 1:51 am | a_crezo: | @laurelrusswurm Can I get a Hallelujah! #scribechat |
| 1:51 am | raspee: | @HeatherMcCorkle What is the hardest part about writing you think #scribechat |
| 1:51 am | wholewidewords: | @a_crezo I work in bursts, 2. I meant determination over long haul. I fail, but keep poking round the edges for another way in! #scribechat |
| 1:52 am | editorialdept: | I’m biased because I work w/ editors all day, but I really think they play an invaluable role. (Good editors, at least) #scribechat |
| 1:52 am | LiaKeyes: | @editorialdept Yes, I agree, it was interesting to read Lerner’s take on what editors can do to nudge a writer along. #scribechat |
| 1:52 am | phoebeeating: | @LiaKeyes Def preferred the first half. I think there are other “handbooks” that cover the info there better . . . #scribechat |
| 1:52 am | maryfranholm: | RT @lioncaller I write to get voices the hell out of my head. #scribechat |
| 1:53 am | editorialdept: | @LiaKeyes I prefered the archetypes section because it spoke to the writer in me. Pub. industry isn’t such a mystery these days #scribechat |
| 1:53 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating I agree, but my focus now isn’t getting published, it’s being a better writer. #scribechat |
| 1:53 am | editorialdept: | “The best editors call attention to those parts of the book that have been bothering the writer, if only on an unconscious lvl” #scribechat |
| 1:53 am | LiaKeyes: | @editorialdept I liked her advice to enjoy the peace and freedom of writing one’s first book. Subsequent books involve pressure. #scribechat |
| 1:53 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @raspee The hardest part for me is pushing through the times when I’m less motivated. Its like a muscle that must be excercised! #scribechat |
| 1:54 am | raspee: | @nathanhenrion He he wonder if that will fly with my wife… #scribechat |
| 1:54 am | a_crezo: | @wholewidewords That I’m still writing is testament to my determination, but I have to fight procrastination tooth and nail. LOL #scribechat |
| 1:54 am | matthewschulz: | @Raspee To me, the hardest part is reining myself in. I like going where things take me, so I write a lot that I’ll never use. #scribechat |
| 1:54 am | teetate: | And I never want to stop learning about that. @editorialdept is right. No mystery in pub now. #scribechat |
| 1:54 am | a_crezo: | @teetate A good focus, I think. It’s mine too at this point. #scribechat |
| 1:54 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | @raspee The muse is a wonderful thing but a powerful writing muscle is even better. #scribechat |
| 1:54 am | laurelrusswurm: | @LiaKeyes I’d be more interested in the archetypes; since I’m planning to self-pub I doubt it would have much for me #scribechat |
| 1:55 am | nathanhenrion: | @Raspee probably not…that excuse has never worked #scribechat |
| 1:55 am | teetate: | @laurelrusswurm how many times do I have to say it? Psychic. Twins. #scribechat |
| 1:55 am | phoebeeating: | RT @HeatherMcCorkle: @raspee The muse is a wonderful thing but a powerful writing muscle is even better. #scribechat |
| 1:55 am | lioncaller: | Gotta go. Kid returns from 2.5 mos in allegedly dangerous (per @NewYorker) state of Michoacan, Mex (he had great exper)! Nite #scribechat |
| 1:55 am | a_crezo: | RT @HeatherMcCorkle: @raspee The muse is a wonderful thing but a powerful writing muscle is even better. #scribechat |
| 1:55 am | LiaKeyes: | @laurelrusswurm Even as a self-publisher, you could benefit from using a freelance editor, so same info applies… #scribechat |
| 1:55 am | editorialdept: | The archetypes were helpful because she not only illustrated foibles, but offered solutions specific to each. #scribechat |
| 1:56 am | teetate: | @lioncaller night, hon #scribechat |
| 1:56 am | laurelrusswurm: | @teetate |
| 1:56 am | wholewidewords: | @a_crezo Procrastination is my nemesis! (& depression, & anxiety, & self-doubt, &, &, &…) #scribechat |
| 1:56 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes question for all really: how do you know which freelance editor is the best? #scribechat |
| 1:56 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes I was more interested in the 1st part but not because it wasn’t good, just that I’m not interested in “selling” atm. #scribechat |
| 1:56 am | LiaKeyes: | @lioncaller LOL Good to see you! Go rescue the kids. |
| 1:56 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords lol that makes you truly a writer, dear. #scribechat |
| 1:57 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @LiaKeyes Very true, earlier novels had such freedom, now I’m feeling the pressure (iin a good way) #scribechat |
| 1:57 am | a_crezo: | @wholewidewords They’re siblings, you know. It makes sense that they’d all be nemeses. |
| 1:57 am | phoebeeating: | @editorialdept Def., it was unique, but practical information. #scribechat |
| 1:57 am | overdunne: | RT @teetate: @LiaKeyes question for all really: how do you know which freelance editor is the best?<–would like 2 know too #scribechat |
| 1:57 am | PeterMcL: | I should procrastinate, but I keep putting it off. #scribechat |
| 1:57 am | Danisidhe: | RT @matthewschulz: I write a lot that I’ll never use. #scribechat << We have to. Writing is about choices – not our first thought. |
| 1:57 am | LiaKeyes: | AGREED. I found it freeing advice RT @phoebeeating: @editorialdept Def., it was unique, but practical information. #scribechat |
| 1:57 am | teetate: | RT @PeterMcL: I should procrastinate, but I keep putting it off. #scribechat |
| 1:58 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @editorialdept you’ll probably hate me for saying this, but I reckon Bold & Beautiful makes great use of archetypes. #scribechat |
| 1:58 am | laurelrusswurm: | @LiaKeyes Yes, you’re right; in my infancy i had editorial bg; in the here and now some great beta readers. #scribechat |
| 1:58 am | wholewidewords: | @a_crezo Yay, I’m in the club! Wait, do I want to be in this club? lol #scribechat |
| 1:58 am | LiaKeyes: | @overdunne I look at training, work history, preferred genres, etc. No point giving work to a genius editor who hates ur genre #scribechat |
| 1:59 am | PeterMcL: | One has to be careful not to turn archetypes into stereotypes. #scribechat |
| 1:59 am | teetate: | RT @PeterMcL: One has to be careful not to turn archetypes into stereotypes. #scribechat |
| 1:59 am | a_crezo: | @wholewidewords Haha! It’s a draw. #scribechat |
| 1:59 am | editorialdept: | RT @teetate: how do you know which freelance editor is the best? <–pros offer inexpensive samples-try one & see if you click. #scribechat |
| 1:59 am | Danisidhe: | @editorialdept Yes. The more passionately a writer reacts to a note, the more they are likely to need it! Deep down, they knew. #scribechat |
| 1:59 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | Dinner calls. Thanks for the great chat everyone! #scribechat |
| 2:00 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes hard to know who to trust, I’m afraid. At least, that’s my experience. #scribechat |
| 2:00 am | teetate: | @HeatherMcCorkle night, sweetie #scribechat |
| 2:00 am | LiaKeyes: | @overdunne @teetate And I ask what they’ve edited, and read them, then discuss how much work went into them, and what kind. #scribechat |
| 2:00 am | Danisidhe: | RT @thedaisyharris:! #scribechat What else to do w/ neuroses? #scribechat << Many spend years fighting them – I know I have |
| 2:01 am | LiaKeyes: | @teetate I very much prefer freelance editors with a strong, recent work background in publishing (ie @drydenbks for kids bks) #scribechat |
| 2:01 am | a_crezo: | Question: When planning a wip, do you think of characters or overall plot first? I struggle with plot CONSTANTLY. #scribechat |
| 2:01 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes @editorialdept thanks. #scribechat |
| 2:02 am | editorialdept: | Editors on the up & up will be forthcoming about clients, pricing, level of work/editing/coaching/mentoring, etc. #scribechat |
| 2:02 am | PeterMcL: | @a_crezo My fav question! I’m odd: I work out the plot, then design the chars required to make it happen. #scribechat |
| 2:02 am | teetate: | @a_crezo Constant struggle. Every writer is diff & what wrks for one won’t wrk for all. I get an idea, then flesh out plot. #scribechat |
| 2:02 am | a_crezo: | I think it’s my thought process (so introverted); I can’t step outside of mindset and into action. #scribechat |
| 2:02 am | Danisidhe: | RT @LiaKeyes: No point giving work to a genius editor who hates ur genre #scribechat << Or a “genius” teacher that does the same… |
| 2:03 am | LiaKeyes: | @a_crezo Each story is diff (re story/characters first). If your theme is what fascinates you, that will suggest char & problem #scribechat |
| 2:03 am | teetate: | @a_crezo I think the important thing is to just write. See what happens but don’t use excuse. Just write. #scribechat |
| 2:03 am | editorialdept: | I usually get a germ of plot idea, then flesh out plot & characters concurrently. #scribechat |
| 2:03 am | matthewschulz: | @a_crezo I tend to think plot first, though I definitely struggle with plot all the time too. #scribechat |
| 2:03 am | thedaisyharris: | Another reason to write: wonky worldview. For some, writing is the only way to make sense of it. #scribechat |
| 2:03 am | a_crezo: | @PeterMcL I’m the opposite! I have characters but no story. It’s frustrating. #scribechat |
| 2:03 am | phoebeeating: | @a_crezo plotplotplot. Characters come as the story develops . . . #scribechat |
| 2:03 am | overdunne: | @LiaKeyes I’ve reached the point in my editing where I love/hate my ms at the same time–need objective eyes #scribechat |
| 2:04 am | teetate: | @a_crezo play the ‘what if’ game. It helps me. #scribechat |
| 2:04 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating same for me. #scribechat |
| 2:04 am | thedaisyharris: | @editorialdept I often take the biggest jerk in my story- and turn him into the hero of the next one. |
| 2:04 am | LiaKeyes: | @a_crezo If a certain character type interests you, then consider what that person would consider a problem, and solve it. #scribechat |
| 2:04 am | editorialdept: | on that note, I’d be wary of any “genius” editor. Editor’s ego should be checked @ the door. They provide service, not orders #scribechat |
| 2:04 am | raspee: | @HeatherMcCorkle Yes I agree… I guess you could call it the cranial brute force! #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | teetate: | King says plot isn’t important. The story is. #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate You stole the tweet write out of my hands. “What If” rocks! #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | PeterMcL: | @a_crezo How to plot from characters: work out what they want, and stop them getting it! #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | LiaKeyes: | @a_crezo Story/plot is all about conflict/problems/question. Nothing else. Without those you have no story. #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | laurelrusswurm: | @a_crezo me too… i outline then plug in characters, then let the characters fight for the outline they want. #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | a_crezo: | What I’ve done with my current WIP is design a situation. Now I have to figure out how each character reacts in- and externally. #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | raspee: | @nathanhenrion Yeah that’s what I thought! he he… Thought I’d try #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords lol sorry! Great minds and all. Either that or we’ve read the same books. #scribechat |
| 2:05 am | LiaKeyes: | FUN! RT @thedaisyharris: @editorialdept I often take the biggest jerk in my story- & turn him into the hero of the next one. |
| 2:05 am | a_crezo: | @PeterMcL Great advice |
| 2:06 am | phoebeeating: | Oh man, I’m exhausted. Have a little #writing to do before bed . . . goodnight, scribes! #scribechat |
| 2:06 am | editorialdept: | Love this idea! RT @thedaisyharris: I often take the biggest jerk in my story- & turn him into the hero of the next one. |
| 2:06 am | LiaKeyes: | @a_crezo Yes, and not just how character reacts, but what action they decide to take to solve situational problem. Then… #scribechat |
| 2:07 am | laurelrusswurm: | @teetate and keep writing even if you feel a block coming on. Write now. Rewrite later. #scribechat |
| 2:07 am | wholewidewords: | “Genius” teachers, editors, mentors: Remember, many have their own agendas! They have to make a living and promote, too! #scribechat |
| 2:07 am | LiaKeyes: | @a_crezo How the antagonist will react to protagonist’s action. Cause and effect. #scribechat |
| 2:07 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating night, honey. May send an update soon. Thanks so much for the critique! #scribechat |
| 2:07 am | raspee: | @matthewschulz Its like me taking pictures… I recently realized I have been taking snaps that have no visual value! #scribechat |
| 2:07 am | teetate: | @laurelrusswurm exactly #scribechat |
| 2:07 am | PeterMcL: | @a_crezo ‘Reacts’ is critical but insufficient: they must have (motivated) goals which are thwarted. #scribechat |
| 2:08 am | LiaKeyes: | Well put! RT @PeterMcL: @a_crezo Reacts is critical but insufficient: they must have (motivated) goals which are thwarted. #scribechat |
| 2:08 am | a_crezo: | This is my new favorite place. I heart you, @teetate. #scribechat |
| 2:08 am | a_crezo: | RT @PeterMcL: @a_crezo Reacts is critical but insufficient: they must have (motivated) goals which are thwarted. #scribechat |
| 2:08 am | LiaKeyes: | Awww |
| 2:09 am | teetate: | @a_crezo I heart you back, bess fran. Also, invaluable site: http://hollylisle.com/fm/ #scribechat |
| 2:09 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate I’ve really only read a couple of books on writing.The one I like best (so far) is Anne Lamott’s BIRD BY BIRD. #scribechat |
| 2:09 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords Haven’t read that one. I get my ‘wisdom’ from Uncle Stevie. |
| 2:09 am | Danisidhe: | @a_crezo No part develops on its own – it’s all connected. The key is writing out all the possibilities and making your choices. #scribechat |
| 2:10 am | teetate: | @phoebeeating Night, doll. you rock! #scribechat |
| 2:10 am | PeterMcL: | @LiaKeyes Thanks, Ma’am! |
| 2:10 am | a_crezo: | @wholewidewords @teetate Bird by Bird is a FANTASTIC book. One of my faves. #scribechat |
| 2:10 am | laurelrusswurm: | Thanks for an interesting chat… now i’ll have to check the book just to see |
| 2:10 am | raspee: | @HeatherMcCorkle So seriously though.. I’d imagine one is not born with it! How do you train that #scribechat |
| 2:10 am | LiaKeyes: | @PeterMcL It’s easier to do this if you consider that the protagonist is the one who is causing the antagonist problems. |
| 2:11 am | teetate: | @laurelrusswurm night, hon. great chatting w/ you #scribechat |
| 2:11 am | overdunne: | S King (On Writing) “…for all have sinned and fallen short of editorial perfection”<–I’m a sinner for sure |
| 2:11 am | teetate: | @a_crezo Gonna have to check it out. #scribechat |
| 2:11 am | teetate: | RT @overdunne: S King (On Writing) “…for all have sinned and fallen short of editorial perfection”<–Im a sinner for sure |
| 2:11 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate The question I’ve been asking myself lately is, “So what?” I write something, look at it, and think if it has value. #scribechat |
| 2:12 am | nathanhenrion: | @teetate…later, thanks for letting me crash your shindig #scribechat |
| 2:12 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords then ask yourself, ‘how is this advancing the plot?’ ‘Is this really necessary?’ #scribechat |
| 2:12 am | wholewidewords: | @a_crezo I’m spoiled for all other writing books after B by B!! #scribechat |
| 2:12 am | overdunne: | @wholewidewords re: ‘so what?’ I like that idea #scribechat |
| 2:12 am | matthewschulz: | #scribechat My biggest struggle is setting. I feel like my 1st draft is about getting the story out. I’ll worry with setting in 2nd. Weird? |
| 2:12 am | LiaKeyes: | Please visit the blog post and vote in the poll for which book you’d like to read next!http://scribechat.com/archives/2601 #scribechat |
| 2:13 am | teetate: | @nathanhenrion LOL it isn’t mine, but I’m so glad you came by. We’re here every Thursday. #scribechat |
| 2:13 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate It’s amazing how much ISN’T necessary! #scribechat |
| 2:13 am | Danisidhe: | @wholewidewords “So what?” Is a great question but probably best kept for after you’ve finished, or it might paralyze you! #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | editorialdept: | Don’t forget to join the email list if you’d like to discuss Forest for the Trees (and other books) in more than 140 characters! #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | editorialdept: | http://groups.google.com/group/scribechat-books #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | teetate: | @matthewschulz *cracks knuckles* For me, setting is almost as imprt as plot and conflict. It should be almost another character #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | LiaKeyes: | For ongoing e-mail discussion of writing books, join http://groups.google.com/group/scribechat-books #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | a_crezo: | @teetate @wholewidewords “So what?” and “What if?” I like those. #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | wholewidewords: | @overdunne Thanks! It helps me push myself creatively. #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | PeterMcL: | @matthewschulz Then I’m weird too. I begrudge having to describe setting. Often, it isn’t relevant anyway. #scribechat |
| 2:14 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords Then chop, chop, chop. You could have stores of stuff u don’t need, but sometimes ‘u’ need it. Ya know? #scribechat |
| 2:15 am | Danisidhe: | @matthewschulz Not weird at all, if by setting you mean description. #scribechat |
| 2:15 am | japanmama: | RT @Danisidhe RT @matthewschulz: I write a lot that I’ll never use. #scribechat We have to, it’s about choices – not our first thought |
| 2:15 am | EbonyMcKenna: | #scribechat Thanks for a fab chat – freshly motivated and inspired. |
| 2:15 am | wholewidewords: | @Danisidhe You definitely have a point there. Paralysis is a big problem for this newbie. #scribechat |
| 2:15 am | teetate: | @PeterMcL It’s not like that for everyone, but I’m a ‘southern’ writer. We love setting. #scribechat |
| 2:15 am | PeterMcL: | I have trouble with the ‘chop chop’ aspect. I can boil my stories (and all others?) down to ‘MC won.’ #scribechat |
| 2:16 am | LiaKeyes: | @PeterMcL @matthewschulz Fundamental differences in the way women and men write (ie descriptions, feelings vs what happens) Y/N? #scribechat |
| 2:16 am | Danisidhe: | @teetate @matthewschulz But that’s not necessary for every story or every writer. A story should have a ‘place’ though. #scribechat |
| 2:16 am | a_crezo: | RT @EbonyMcKenna: #scribechat Thanks for a fab chat – freshly motivated and inspired. // so glad I sat in tonight. |
| 2:16 am | teetate: | And by setting, I mean place. Description for me = all senses. #scribechat |
| 2:16 am | thedaisyharris: | @PeterMcL I love setting. Hate stories where I wonder “where is this taking place?” Top of Eiffel Tower? Mars? Bottom of Ocean? #scribechat |
| 2:16 am | wholewidewords: | @teetate You’re so right! I hadn’t considered it that way. #scribechat |
| 2:16 am | LiaKeyes: | @wholewidewords Sometimes the less you know the better off you are until the first draft is finished. Overthinking crippled me. #scribechat |
| 2:16 am | teetate: | @Danisidhe that’s what I meant, ‘place’ #scribechat |
| 2:17 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords |
| 2:17 am | bestofraspee: | RT @LiaKeyes: For ongoing e-mail discussion of writing books, joinhttp://groups.google.com/group/scribechat-books #scribechat |
| 2:17 am | a_crezo: | @teetate: “Im a southern writer. We love setting.” // I’ve noticed the trend. Beautiful atmosphere in southern novels. #scribechat |
| 2:17 am | PeterMcL: | @LiaKeyes Fundamental differences? Y I think (as a generalisation, of course). Perhaps also mirrored in readers’ tastes? #scribechat |
| 2:17 am | LiaKeyes: | @a_crezo @EbonyMcKenna Glad you both got something out of the chat! Go forth and write words! #scribechat |
| 2:17 am | teetate: | I have written plenty: backgrounds, biographies that will never make it to the page. I know and that’s all I needed. #scribechat |
| 2:18 am | wholewidewords: | @LiaKeyes I overthink about my overthinking! Is there no end? #scribechat |
| 2:18 am | teetate: | @a_crezo Try to imagine a story set in New Orleans w/o description. Impossible. #scribechat |
| 2:18 am | LiaKeyes: | @PeterMcL I think it would make for an interesting chat topic for another week – I’m sure we’d find a lot to discuss! #scribechat |
| 2:18 am | a_crezo: | @LiaKeyes Definitely feeling writerly. Love this place. #scribechat |
| 2:18 am | overdunne: | RT @wholewidewords: @LiaKeyes I overthink about my overthinking! Is there no end? <– Me too! Hence the love/hate w my ms… #scribechat |
| 2:19 am | a_crezo: | @teetate And boooooring. #scribechat |
| 2:19 am | Danisidhe: | @wholewidewords Remember, no-one need ever see what you write. Just get it down. You can’t edit what you haven’t written |
| 2:19 am | teetate: | Or, I should say, New Orleans w/o ‘being’ in the city. Just can’t be done. IMHO #scribechat |
| 2:19 am | dlschubert: | @LiaKeyes Have I missed this? ARGH!!! #scribechat |
| 2:19 am | PeterMcL: | @LiaKeyes Agreed! #scribechat |
| 2:20 am | LiaKeyes: | @overdunne Overthinkers need to get back in touch with the core fascination of their story, the genesis of it. #scribechat |
| 2:20 am | wholewidewords: | TRUTH: RT @Danisidhe: Remember, no-one need ever see what you write. Just get it down. You cant edit what you havent written |
| 2:20 am | matthewschulz: | @LiaKeyes @petermcl V interesting idea. There may be something to that. #Scribechat |
| 2:20 am | LiaKeyes: | LOL Not to worry! There’ll be another time, another book. |
| 2:20 am | a_crezo: | RT @wholewidewords I’m spoiled for all other writing books after B by B!! // Lamott is genius. Loved “shitty first drafts.” LOL #scribechat |
| 2:21 am | teetate: | @a_crezo what’s the title again? #scribechat |
| 2:21 am | a_crezo: | @teetate Very, bess fran. Like a coffeeshop only on twitter. LOL #scribechat |
| 2:21 am | dlschubert: | @LiaKeyes Is it 9PM EST every Thursday? #scribechat |
| 2:21 am | wholewidewords: | @LiaKeyes The core being, “why I need to tell this” rather than “why will people read it”? #scribechat |
| 2:21 am | editorialdept: | brb- having an a/c emergency and the tech just showed up #scribechat |
| 2:21 am | a_crezo: | @teetate Bird by Bird: Some Advice on Writing and Life #scribechat |
| 2:22 am | teetate: | @a_crezo I know! I ALWAYS write after getting off of here. I think everyone does. #scribechat |
| 2:22 am | LiaKeyes: | YES, absolutely! RT @wholewidewords: @LiaKeyes The core being, “why I need to tell this” rather than “why will people read it”? #scribechat |
| 2:22 am | LiaKeyes: | No worries! RT @editorialdept: brb- having an a/c emergency and the tech just showed up #scribechat |
| 2:23 am | wholewidewords: | @a_crezo LOL me too! Plus how her students kept asking about agents and she would sigh and try to keep them focused on WRITING! #scribechat |
| 2:23 am | PeterMcL: | @Danisidhe Wow! I like that idea! So I’m not doing the thing wrong, I’m doing the wrong thing. #scribechat |
| 2:23 am | LiaKeyes: | I always consider what I would do if I could only publish one book before I died. What would I want to say? #scribechat |
| 2:23 am | a_crezo: | @teetate |
| 2:23 am | overdunne: | @LiaKeyes agree…loved ms the first 5 times or so. Prob w discovering twitter etc is so many ideas they get jammed on way out! #scribechat |
| 2:23 am | a_crezo: | @wholewidewords I loved the chapter on jealousy. She’s so honest. #scribechat |
| 2:24 am | LiaKeyes: | That’s GREAT! RT @teetate: @a_crezo I know! I ALWAYS write after getting off of here. I think everyone does. #scribechat |
| 2:24 am | matthewschulz: | Def will give a sense of place with the story. Story’s not complete without it. It’s just not the first thing I think about. #scribechat |
| 2:24 am | a_crezo: | RT @LiaKeyes I always consider what I would do if I could only publish one book before I died. What would I want to say?/Enough! #scribechat |
| 2:25 am | PeterMcL: | “getting off of here”? I REALLY need to read things more closely. *blushes* #scribechat |
| 2:25 am | a_crezo: | @teetate Best thing all week. Oh frabjuous Thursdays! #scribechat |
| 2:25 am | teetate: | @editorialdept It’s happened before for sure. Harper Lee (though she isn’t dead) and Margaret Mitchell…who, um, is #scribechat |
| 2:25 am | LiaKeyes: | @matthewschulz You can give a sense of place through action, what character handles, fights with, argues about. Not info dump #scribechat |
| 2:25 am | wholewidewords: | @a_crezo Her honesty and humility are amazing. She writes like I want to: funny, bold, and gently wise. #scribechat |
| 2:25 am | teetate: | @a_crezo lol knew you’d love it. #scribechat |
| 2:26 am | Danisidhe: | @petermcl Maybe, but I’m back to novels because I want to create my own worlds/chars etc & screenwriters rarely get to do that. #scribechat |
| 2:26 am | teetate: | Despite my grumpy mood, I still love #scribechat #scribechat |
| 2:26 am | a_crezo: | @wholewidewords And unguarded. She just lays *everything* out there. It’s intimidating and inspiring. #scribechat |
| 2:27 am | Danisidhe: | @petermcl Not for the work they are paid for, anyway… #scribechat |
| 2:27 am | LiaKeyes: | @Danisidhe NY agent Don Maass would agree about leaving out the boring bits in novels, as well as screenplays. #scribechat |
| 2:27 am | a_crezo: | @teetate Of course: TWINS! #scribechat |
| 2:27 am | overdunne: | On that note, I’m going to work for a bit on un-jamming ideas. I heart #scribechat |
| 2:27 am | teetate: | @a_crezo grumpy twins or psychic ones? #scribechat |
| 2:27 am | LiaKeyes: | RT @overdunne: On that note, Im going to work for a bit on un-jamming ideas. I heart #scribechat |
| 2:28 am | teetate: | @overdunne I’m pretty sure #scribechat hearts you back. This #scribechatter does. #scribechat |
| 2:28 am | wholewidewords: | @LiaKeyes I’ve been so hung up on the “why will people read this” thing. Glad you brought up getting back to our core. #scribechat |
| 2:28 am | TheSmokingPoet: | @Danisidhe Imagine many write to change the world, make it right in our own way. Writing as therapy,solving world problems. #scribechat |
| 2:28 am | LiaKeyes: | @overdunne Happy scribbling! Free write. Drink a glass of wine to shut up your internal critic #scribechat |
| 2:28 am | overdunne: | @teetate awww…you’re sweet |
| 2:28 am | LiaKeyes: | Absolutely! RT @teetate: @overdunne Im pretty sure #scribechat hearts you back. This #scribechatterdoes. #scribechat |
| 2:29 am | teetate: | @PublishingSpy cheers! #scribechat |
| 2:29 am | Danisidhe: | @matthewschulz Better for a first draft to have more story and less setting than more setting and less story! Go for it. #scribechat |
| 2:29 am | teetate: | @overdunne |
| 2:29 am | AudryT: | @LiaKeyes When I miss #scribechat it’s usually b/c I’m writing! Tho’ tonight I’m just putting together a deck of writer’s block cards. |
| 2:29 am | a_crezo: | @teetate Haha, psychic. I’m not at all grumpy. Today |
| 2:29 am | overdunne: | @LiaKeyes Oooooh…wine would be good right now! Night, night, and thanks for the great #scribechat |
| 2:29 am | matthewschulz: | @LiaKeyes That’s what I’ve done to this pt. Where the story happens drives most everything. I just haven’t added tons of descrip #scribechat |
| 2:29 am | LiaKeyes: | @TheSmokingPoet Yes, I think that’s true. In our stories we can set the world right, and smite the evil-doers! #scribechat |
| 2:29 am | TheSmokingPoet: | Place, setting, often like more characters in story, their own dialogue, if not always in words but appealing to senses. #scribechat |
| 2:30 am | LiaKeyes: | @AudryT Writer’s Block cards for yourself or general consumption? #scribechat |
| 2:30 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes Oh absolutely, but the six year old me who boasted that she doesn’t write “the boring bits” was just being lazy LOL! #scribechat |
| 2:30 am | teetate: | @matthewschulz Well, I wrote a short in my WIP universe & that and this chat helped me sort out the issues I was having. #scribechat |
| 2:31 am | LiaKeyes: | @Danisidhe ROFL! I’m pretty lazy myself. Why write the boring bits? If I think they’re boring, so will the reader… #scribechat |
| 2:31 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes Loved The Fire in Fiction btw – more than Breakout Novel. Should def be on the list! #scribechat |
| 2:31 am | AudryT: | For consumption! Trying out a DIY card deck company. RT@LiaKeyes: Writer’s Block cards for yourself or general consumption? #scribechat |
| 2:31 am | teetate: | @TheSmokingPoet: EXACTLY why I love setting #scribechat |
| 2:31 am | dlschubert: | No better advice was ever given: RT@LiaKeyes Happy scribbling! Free write. Drink a glass of wine to shut up your internal critic #scribechat |
| 2:32 am | LiaKeyes: | @Danisidhe Interesting! Why did you like Fire in Fiction more? #scribechat |
| 2:32 am | TheSmokingPoet: | @LiaKeyes It’s been confirmed that art in any medium, perhaps writing most, is therapy. Helps us understand selves, others. #scribechat |
| 2:32 am | AudryT: | @LiaKeyes As in, you design the card game or deck, they do production, you sell it. I can’t resist. ^_^ #scribechat |
| 2:32 am | matthewschulz: | Well, thx for the input, y’all. Happy writing. See you next time. #scribechat |
| 2:33 am | teetate: | @matthewschulz night! Great chatting w/ you #scribechat |
| 2:33 am | a_crezo: | Alas, I am off the Internets for tonight. Thanks for the awesome chat and advice. You guys rock! #scribechat |
| 2:33 am | wholewidewords: | Going to sign off, #scribechatters. Lots to think about..but not OVERthink, lol! Thanks to all for your wisdom & humor. |
| 2:33 am | LiaKeyes: | @matthewschulz ‘Night, Matthew! Look forward to chatting with you again soon. |
| 2:33 am | teetate: | @a_crezo night sweetie. #scribechat |
| 2:33 am | TheSmokingPoet: | @teetate Setting is so important. Can’t have characters in a vacuum. #scribechat |
| 2:34 am | LiaKeyes: | @AudryT Interesting! I want to see what you come up with! Or a link or whatever. #scribechat |
| 2:34 am | teetate: | @wholewidewords Night! Thnks for mentioning the book #scribechat |
| 2:34 am | teetate: | @TheSmokingPoet exactly. It is so important…gotta have place #scribechat |
| 2:34 am | a_crezo: | @teetate Night, Bess Fran! Much frenzied scribbling tomorrow |
| 2:34 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes Absolutely, but that 6 year old was not a good judge! Coming from screenwriting, though, I am a little too efficient! #scribechat |
| 2:34 am | LiaKeyes: | To continue the discussion of great books on writing, join: http://groups.google.com/group/scribechat-books #scribechat |
| 2:35 am | teetate: | @a_crezo YAY! I’ll be on googletalk tomorrow night. Smooch! #scribechat |
| 2:35 am | LiaKeyes: | To vote or suggest next book respond to poll questions here: http://scribechat.com/archives/2601#scribechat |
| 2:36 am | AudryT: | @LiaKeyes Sure. I’m going to tweet about using them so others can get a sense if they’re any good. #scribechat |
| 2:36 am | PeterMcL: | For me, the story is WHAT happens. I only care about where if it affects what happens. I know, I’m a heretic. #scribechat |
| 2:36 am | TheSmokingPoet: | RT @LiaKeyes: To vote or suggest next book respond to poll questions here:http://scribechat.com/archives/2601 #scribechat |
| 2:37 am | teetate: | RT @LiaKeyes: To vote or suggest next book respond to poll questions here:http://scribechat.com/archives/2601 #scribechat |
| 2:37 am | LiaKeyes: | Anyone interested in weekly wordcount Write-A-Thons? Or freewriting sessions? #scribechat |
| 2:37 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes Because Fire in Fiction was about passion and authenticity, whereas Breakout left a lot of that out. #scribechat |
| 2:37 am | teetate: | @PeterMcL LOL you so are!!! heh #scribechat |
| 2:37 am | LiaKeyes: | YES! RT @PeterMcL: For me, the story is WHAT happens. I only care about where if it affects what happens. I know, Im a heretic. #scribechat |
| 2:37 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes You know I am. Anything that puts me on a deadline I love. #scribechat |
| 2:38 am | LiaKeyes: | @Danisidhe I liked the nuts and bolts advice of Writing the Breakout Novel #scribechat |
| 2:39 am | LiaKeyes: | @teetate Do you all have a day or night when you write and would like a prompt or an hour of shared freewriting? #scribechat |
| 2:40 am | LiaKeyes: | I don’t mean that we would share our writing, but that we would share the experience and check in at the end of an hour #scribechat |
| 2:40 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes Nuts and bolts indeed, and well done, but little you can’t find elsewhere. #scribechat |
| 2:40 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes well, I can’t write at work. The old ppl r 2 distracting, but I could do either prompt or freewriting. I’m flexible. #scribechat |
| 2:40 am | EbonyMcKenna: | @LiaKeyes Same here, I’m a huge fan of Writing the Breakout Novel. #scribechat |
| 2:41 am | LiaKeyes: | @teetate What’s a good time for you? #scribechat |
| 2:41 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes and pretty much any night of the week is fine except Sunday bc well, #trueblood |
| 2:41 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes Also, Breakout seemed a little too easily construed as a formula for those who write to be published and get famous. #scribechat |
| 2:41 am | EbonyMcKenna: | OK, it’s nearly 1pm and I have friends coming for dinner – might need to get some ingredients or we’ll be eating dust! #scribechat |
| 2:42 am | LiaKeyes: | HA HA!!! RT @teetate: @LiaKeyes and pretty much any night of the week is fine except Sunday bc well, #trueblood |
| 2:42 am | Danisidhe: | @LiaKeyes I guess Fire in Fiction was about the missing ingredient! |
| 2:42 am | teetate: | @EbonyMcKenna oh yummy, whatcha cooking? |
| 2:42 am | LiaKeyes: | @EbonyMcKenna Give them enough wine and a taxi home and they won’t care! |
| 2:43 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes heh, it’s a compulsion. Oh and anytime after six central is good for me. #scribechat |
| 2:44 am | LiaKeyes: | @teetate Okay, I’ll think on it and let you know (re freewriting hour) #scribechat |
| 2:45 am | jflamingo2: | Simply sorry that I missed my writer friends at #scribechat tonight. I am glad that I can still read & learn from the transcript:) @LiaKeyes |
| 2:45 am | Danisidhe: | @editorialdept @LiaKeyes Thanks for a great chat! Looking forward to the next book! Off to have lunch and then write |
| 2:45 am | LiaKeyes: | ABSOLUTELY! RT @Danisidhe: RT @teetate: any night of the week is fine except Sunday bc well, #trueblood |
| 2:45 am | teetate: | @LiaKeyes that’s fine with me. I’ll await your email. |
| 2:45 am | LiaKeyes: | ‘Night all! Thanks for the fascinating chat! #scribechat |
| 2:46 am | LiaKeyes: | @jflamingo2 I’ll tweet when the transcript is up in a little bit. How are you? #scribechat |
| 2:47 am | LiaKeyes: | Virtual brownies for chat pals at #scribechat |
| 2:47 am | LiaKeyes: | http://twitpic.com/29vzhj #scribechat |
| 2:47 am | teetate: | Guys, don’t forget to RT each others #blogs solidarity ya know? Night, great chat as always. #scribechat |
| 2:48 am | LiaKeyes: | RT @teetate: Guys, dont forget to RT each others #blogs solidarity ya know? Night, great chat as always. #scribechat |
| 2:54 am | overdunne: | @LiaKeyes re: brownies. Oh. My. Goodness. Those look delish. Must root around for some chocolate… #scribechat |
| 2:55 am | Lauralynnpoetry: | RT @teetate: King says plot isn’t important. The story is. #scribechat |
| 3:30 am | inkgypsy: | RT @LiaKeyes: RT @teetate: Guys, dont forget to RT each others #blogs solidarity ya know? Night, great chat as always. #scribechat |
| 3:30 am | teetate: | I’d like to point out sadly, there was *no* mention of @jk_rowling or Potter once in tonight’s #scribechatin case u were wondering. |
| 3:30 am | raspee: | @HeatherMcCorkle I hear you… stick through it.. fight it! Thanks. You are the best #scribechat |
| 3:31 am | HeatherMcCorkle: | I loved tonight’s #Scribechat so much I had to write about it! http://tinyurl.com/32ywaag #writing#writetip |
| 3:32 am | teetate: | RT @HeatherMcCorkle: I loved tonight’s #Scribechat so much I had to write about it!http://tinyurl.com/32ywaag #writing #writetip |
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Had a great time, guys – many thanks!
@Danisidhe/@Story_Craft
Twitter: liakeyes
August 3, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Thanks for joining us! I would have joined you on Sunday but I was at a four day writers conference. Back at my desk now, though, and looking forward to this week’s exchanges!